I currently have a Mazda3. My wife has an Audi we bought used practically stole it from the previous owners. We buy what we like as some of us really do like driving. A lot. Where some spend on furniture or gambling, we have always gone toward cars we enjoy driving to point of going to weekend track days or drives across europe.
You can still save, fund a retirement, own homes in socal and own cars you enjoy. Sorry John but your view just does not hold water. Thats your problem not theirs.
It also depends quite a bit on what area of the country you live. In Boston, BMW is prevalent. They are everywhere. It is pretty bare bones on options too. No built in NAV, no high end stereo. Its a very nice ride, and a very nice SUV. For me it comes down to safety, handling and performance. I survived a very nasty 5 car pile up on I East in in my first X3.
I was amazed at how safe I felt throughout the whole thing. All the safety systems worked perfectly. Any accident where airbags go off, and ALL of mine did, is a bad accident. BMW has an amazing set of safety systems built into their cars. I do not feel my other car, a VW Jetta would have had anywhere near the same level of protection.
When I bought my X3 the sales person could not believe I wanted to buy my car. He kept explaining that everyone leases a BMW. I told him three times. Wrote the check, paid in full no lease, no loan. He thought I was crazy. Also I should note I did not purchase the car new. I bought a Model X3 that had been in service for less than 10 months. Previously had been leased to a person who could not afford the lease. However, you are really only showing that you are just jealous, and envious, which to be honest are both traits that make you a lesser person than the guy sitting next to you at a red light in his bimmer.
Used is definitely the way to go. There are lots of high income household. In , there were about million households. Laughing at the guy with the Ph. Parked cars on and off in college. I figured the tip said more about people than the car. Some minivan owners would drop you a 5 and some BMW owners would give you a buck.
Sometimes vice versa. Someone seems to be both ignoring the topic at hand and protesting too much about a simple fact. You could probably find the commercial on Youtube now. Sorry to break the news to you and seemingly ruin your self image so easily…. The fact that BMW has a poor reputation has nothing to do with class envy, and I am by no means poor. Reality is that when you drive down a road in a BMW, those around will slow to the speed limit, block you, etc.
Just the facts again. You may not even be aware of the difference if you have spent most of your time in a BMW. The paint job and leather are actually NOT the main differences — the paint is usually a standard Toyota color, and leather is an option on many Toyotas. They are often built on the same base, but there is a lot more than that to a car. I have owned several Toyotas and am currently on my second and third Lexuses. If you know how to deal, and pick the right time to buy January was a great time btw — lots of luxury cars coming off lease and no-one brave enough to spend money , a secondhand Lexus is not much more expensive than a secondhand Toyota.
Drive on any highway through Germany, Austria, France, Italy, Belgium, etc etc… Drivers there know that the flash signal is a common indicator. This is hardly proof that BMW drivers are assh0les as you describe.
Not a fact. The luxo models will have bigger engines and more gears and they have many more twiddly bits like navigation units, but the chassis is the same and most of the guts are the same. However, SOME manufacturers go to great lengths to make you think similar products are different. Lexus and Toyota are close cousins too—and mimic the GMC approach to branding. GMC took this approach to a cynical extreme during the boxy clone car era a couple decades ago—with slight changes to one car across 5 different brands.
I recall the clueless Cadillac stylists after proudly introducing a new model…which was so much like other GM products that buyers just ignored it.
You also get to deal with a better dealership, etc. I drive a 96 BMW Z3. Bought it used with 17K miles when it was 2 years old for half the 34K sticker price. I figure the original owner paid a buck a mile to drive it. The car has been cheap to insure, gotten almost 30mpg and been bullet proof for the past 12 years. I usually take the train and put few miles on my car. It now has only 96K. My wife has a CR-V which is our main vehicle. The car is now probably worth five thousand, yet I often get treated like some kind of rich snob when I drive up in it.
This chart has median income, not average income. Most of the time outliers are thrown out all together. It is odd they have median income together with average age.
They should have done median for both fields of data. As for the flashing of headlights discussion, its not common practice in the US but it is in Europe.
The age of the driver, not the manufacturer of the vehicle, would be a better determining factor in whether the owner is a bad driver. Insurance companies factor this into the formula for determining cost of coverage which is why very young and very old drivers pay more for auto insurance. There are actual facts that can back up age and accidents or citations.
But no facts that show BMW means a certain negative attitude on the road. Based on the comments, there seems to be a lot of stereotyping and assumptions being made. What someone drives does reflect s bit about them.
Personally, I prefer a car with good safety ratings, great design, good performance, run flat tires and zero maintenance. BMW is the only model that fits my personal requirements. If another manufacturer ie. Ford can meet my requirements I would definitely consider picking up a Ford.
Most of my friends drive a BMW, have high income, and have at minimum a 4 year degree we are all between I wonder what assumptions will be made from my previous sentence. Or if there is something to the article from BusinessWeek. Is it the best selling luxury brand in USA? Must be why this post still gets traffic so many years later! Silly: this thread proves that people all have hangups on something and stereotypes never die, they just get worse after you get out of high school.
Luxury cars are a steal if you know how to shop for them and do not lease them. Though i never service at a a dealer unless under warranty since labor and parts are usually double that of a trusted local mechanic. If they are american , all the better Ford is doing great things but right now, they are not! They have to be household income and reflect non-leased vehicles. I know many many people with luxury cars, and though a couple are of course living beyond their means most are absolutely frugal and thrifty, and make NOWHERE near these amounts….
The high incomes really surprise me. I know in many cities, young professionals who have decent jobs drive BMW 3 series, Benz C class, etc. My what an interesting blog. We all have different situations and scenarios for buying luxury. Millionaire next door — read it and thought it was interesting. I have a masters degree and a great job — I have no debt and started saving money when I landed my first corporate job at the age of I invest well and have quite a diverse portfolio.
Some people like vacationing on the beach, I like driving them. My next lease will be an M3. Three of them were stolen from the apartments I used to live in. They actually feel different than the interior of the Acuras — including dashboard layout. While John here points his finger and calls BMW drivers a-holes, the hippie on the scooter points his finger and calls John an idiot for even buying a car.
The point is that people buy luxury cars for many reasons. Do some of them buy cars they can afford? I agree that you get what you pay for and service one of them. Let me know how the M3 rides. Kind of an old thread, but many here miss the point.
We all have one life to live to our knowledge. Its smart to save money, but its also smart to enjoy life. Worth maybe 2. Just got a great deal on the last of the e90s, i. But I did get everything I wanted, the premium package, satellite radio,etc.
Car had four miles on it when I picked it up. Drives great. Actually, trading in my old beemer that I drove for nine years, with the. Used A5s are not a great value at all when purchased from a dealer if you figure a care lasts for to K miles. I could get lucky shopping around or buying in another state. My subaru is fine, but not has beautiful, quiet, and fun as the A5. They get similar fuel economy.
Will buying it make me addicted to luxury? I could give poop about what other people think… I just love the car. I found the article and many of these comments to be rather silly.
Mercedes are a lot more popular with middle-aged males than BMWs are. Many car brands tend to offer cheaper models for those with a lower income, but Mercedes does not do that. For example, Lexus is also a premium brand with a higher price-tag, but Lexus is a sub-brand of Toyota, and in some instances the appeal of Lexus is being tarnished because of it.
The same thing goes for Audi as many of the interior parts in an Audi are being shared with the rest of the Volkswagen group. So, if you are someone who likes to investigate each and every part of your interior, you might be able to find the same steering wheel in an Audi and a Bentley, or the same light switches in an Audi and a Volkswagen Golf.
Mercedes does not do that as Mercedes makes every part exclusively for a Mercedes. BMW prices are also very different for different trim levels. But what about a Bugatti owner? A typical Bugatti owner is the richest of them all, by far.
According to some reports from a few years ago, a typical Bugatti Veyron owner owns 84 cars, three private jets, and a yacht. Furthermore, Mercedes also manages to return better reliability results as well, and Mercedes cars also tend to cost less in an event of a breakdown. Second Lieutenant.
Originally Posted by Biggie Funnily enough almost any salary range these days get approved for premium car loans. I kind of feel I'm fortunate this wasnt the case when I was starting of my career - back then I was young AND stupid and probably would have gone under by pulling the trigger on a car way over my salary at the time if it was as easy to qualify as it is nowadays.
Appreciate 0. Yesterday, AM eluded. Doesn't everyone just pay cash??? Hitch him up. Appreciate 1. MadBimmeRad Lieutenant Colonel. Originally Posted by eluded. Cos Yesterday, PM Vivek. Originally Posted by King Rudi. It's hilarious. People only see a brand and have no clue of market value.
Originally Posted by AlpineBoost. Started working at 15, currently 37, no college ed. I drive a '09 i approaching k miles lol. Originally Posted by relative4. Appreciate 3. Yesterday, PM Cos Originally Posted by jailonacs Yesterday, PM erickonphoenix. First Lieutenant. Comically, I get called out daily on my Lexus and how everyone thinks it cost me a fortune, from people I work with.
I got asked by one of the maintenance guys the other day, why I don't buy a truck. My response was two part - 1.
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